RON PAUL IS NOT RACIST

fuck ron paul.

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The reason Ron Paul supporters are so willing to overlook Paul’s racism in favor of his economic policy is because those two things are in concert, not in contradiction.

fredman555:

i over look the racism because it doesnt exist

i’m with fred.

cyberterrorist:

ronpaulisnotracist:

cyberterrorist:

ronpaulisnotracist:

Yeah, well I witnessed black on white racism in my school system. Just because people aren’t in position of authority doesn’t mean they are incapable of being racist twats. But only if a group of whites attacked an individual of a different skin tone without provocation all the while shouting racial bullshit, only then could that be considered racist. Give me a break.

There is institutional racism, and then there is personal racism. I’ll give you institutionally white racists have that market cornered, but to suggest minority groups aren’t capable of racism is a laughable delusion.

What I’m arguing is not reverse racism, I’m arguing racism. Because if a rich white mother fucker was to imply that a poor minority wasn’t qualified to have an opinion about the level of taxation on the upperclass that surely would be racist. The crux of your argument is racist bullshit.

I agree ICE is bullshit too. My best friend since I was six, so for twenty years, is Mexican. I’ve argued with many an asshole who thinks racial profiling is justifiable or even effective.

Ron Paul’s newsletters that went out with racial content were terrible, but they don’t match anything I’ve ever heard him say in style or tone, so I have a hard time believing he wrote them. Especially when one of the newsletters has recently been exposed to have had a byline and was conveniently excluded in the original report of the newsletters.

I put his level of distancing himself from these newletters on par with Obama distancing himself from a pastor he had gone to for 20 years and claimed to be his mentor after it came to light that the pastor believed America worked to infect Africa with Aids.

His foreign policy is my primary reason for supporting Ron Paul. I doubt I’m going to vote for him, because he doesn’t represent all my political beliefs. However, he is the only candidate that speaks out against immoral wars, and to that extent I will support him.

No. You’re wrong.

What you’re saying isn’t RACISM. Racism is prejudice/hatred + power. What you’re arguing is personal prejudice. WHICH ISN’T RACISM. Want to know why it’s only racist when white people do it? BECAUSE THAT’S RACISM. Like those white guys down South recently who got like three years for a hate crime committed against a black teenager? That’s racism. If a black guy were to do that, he would never EVER see the light of day again.

If you agree that the ICE bullshit is racist, why the fuck are you trivializing it and saying that it’s on the same level of your “white on black racism” ( which doesn’t exist lol )? What I and millions of POC go through is racism. Some black guys calling you a cracker is not.

Also, Obama does not control his pastor or his thoughts, words, actions, or opinions. Ron Paul however DOES control what is being published under his name.

Go back to supporting your racist as shit candidate. He’ll never be president.

“Racism the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination.”

So when my friend got jumped by three black kids, that he did nothing to, was not racism? Was it not racism when they spat on him while he was on the ground and called him a “cracker ass faggot?” No, right? Because he was white. Please grow, and shut the fuck, up.

I never said that using “white boy” was and dismissing someone’s argument because of the color of their skin was as racist or damaging as institutionalized racism. Simply that it IS racist. Your argument is very much like someone in a burn ward telling someone who burned their hand on a stove that their burn isn’t a burn because it wasn’t as bad. 

You’re right. Obama couldn’t control his ass. I’m sure the pews were made of magical ass magnets and when he proclaimed him his mentor he really hadn’t ever heard any of these caustic things his preacher had said because he was too distracted by the ass magnets. 

I don’t think Obama is a racist, I think he allowed cozy associations with extremist racist types because it provided him political clout within his community which allowed him to get the votes he needed to be a political success. Just like Paul. The difference is, Paul doesn’t preach that it’s ok to use drone strikes to take out a bad guy even though often times children and other innocent bystanders are butchered in the process. And that’s why I support Paul over Obama, but as I’ve said. Not enough to vote for Paul in the general election, because I have standards and Paul doesn’t represent all of mine.

And you made it clear that you hadn’t read all of my statement in stating that “he’ll never be president,” because if you had read my statement you’d understand I’m not concerned with a Paul presidency. 

I’m more concerned with pointing out the hypocrisies in people like you who will fully support a man completely because his policies don’t harm you, while they clearly harm others, and then claim that others are insensitive to minorities. Have fun not giving a shit about middle-eastern children and pretending your arguments aren’t racist.

lol i don’t support obama. feel sorry for your friend, but that doesn’t mean that racism effects white people, and thanks, white person, for telling a latina who has been repeatedly oppressed what is racism and what isn’t. that makes you racist.

bye.

yeah. and you would tell my friend who was clearly a victim of racism that he wasn’t. that makes you so completely fucked up in the head, and so up your own ass you can’t fathom other people experiencing hurt by racism.

i admit that whites aren’t impacted by racism anywhere near the scale that minorities are, but if you deny things that are clearly racist the label then you are just being dishonest to yourself.

i hate the way our government treats hispanics, but it doesn’t give you a pass for faulty logic. 

cyberterrorist:

ronpaulisnotracist:

Yeah, well I witnessed black on white racism in my school system. Just because people aren’t in position of authority doesn’t mean they are incapable of being racist twats. But only if a group of whites attacked an individual of a different skin tone without provocation all the while shouting racial bullshit, only then could that be considered racist. Give me a break.

There is institutional racism, and then there is personal racism. I’ll give you institutionally white racists have that market cornered, but to suggest minority groups aren’t capable of racism is a laughable delusion.

What I’m arguing is not reverse racism, I’m arguing racism. Because if a rich white mother fucker was to imply that a poor minority wasn’t qualified to have an opinion about the level of taxation on the upperclass that surely would be racist. The crux of your argument is racist bullshit.

I agree ICE is bullshit too. My best friend since I was six, so for twenty years, is Mexican. I’ve argued with many an asshole who thinks racial profiling is justifiable or even effective.

Ron Paul’s newsletters that went out with racial content were terrible, but they don’t match anything I’ve ever heard him say in style or tone, so I have a hard time believing he wrote them. Especially when one of the newsletters has recently been exposed to have had a byline and was conveniently excluded in the original report of the newsletters.

I put his level of distancing himself from these newletters on par with Obama distancing himself from a pastor he had gone to for 20 years and claimed to be his mentor after it came to light that the pastor believed America worked to infect Africa with Aids.

His foreign policy is my primary reason for supporting Ron Paul. I doubt I’m going to vote for him, because he doesn’t represent all my political beliefs. However, he is the only candidate that speaks out against immoral wars, and to that extent I will support him.

No. You’re wrong.

What you’re saying isn’t RACISM. Racism is prejudice/hatred + power. What you’re arguing is personal prejudice. WHICH ISN’T RACISM. Want to know why it’s only racist when white people do it? BECAUSE THAT’S RACISM. Like those white guys down South recently who got like three years for a hate crime committed against a black teenager? That’s racism. If a black guy were to do that, he would never EVER see the light of day again.

If you agree that the ICE bullshit is racist, why the fuck are you trivializing it and saying that it’s on the same level of your “white on black racism” ( which doesn’t exist lol )? What I and millions of POC go through is racism. Some black guys calling you a cracker is not.

Also, Obama does not control his pastor or his thoughts, words, actions, or opinions. Ron Paul however DOES control what is being published under his name.

Go back to supporting your racist as shit candidate. He’ll never be president.

"Racism the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination."

So when my friend got jumped by three black kids, that he did nothing to, was not racism? Was it not racism when they spat on him while he was on the ground and called him a “cracker ass faggot?” No, right? Because he was white. Please grow, and shut the fuck, up.

I never said that using “white boy” was and dismissing someone’s argument because of the color of their skin was as racist or damaging as institutionalized racism. Simply that it IS racist. Your argument is very much like someone in a burn ward telling someone who burned their hand on a stove that their burn isn’t a burn because it wasn’t as bad. 

You’re right. Obama couldn’t control his ass. I’m sure the pews were made of magical ass magnets and when he proclaimed him his mentor he really hadn’t ever heard any of these caustic things his preacher had said because he was too distracted by the ass magnets. 

I don’t think Obama is a racist, I think he allowed cozy associations with extremist racist types because it provided him political clout within his community which allowed him to get the votes he needed to be a political success. Just like Paul. The difference is, Paul doesn’t preach that it’s ok to use drone strikes to take out a bad guy even though often times children and other innocent bystanders are butchered in the process. And that’s why I support Paul over Obama, but as I’ve said. Not enough to vote for Paul in the general election, because I have standards and Paul doesn’t represent all of mine.

And you made it clear that you hadn’t read all of my statement in stating that “he’ll never be president,” because if you had read my statement you’d understand I’m not concerned with a Paul presidency. 

I’m more concerned with pointing out the hypocrisies in people like you who will fully support a man completely because his policies don’t harm you, while they clearly harm others, and then claim that others are insensitive to minorities. Have fun not giving a shit about middle-eastern children and pretending your arguments aren’t racist.

cyberterrorist:

ronpaulisnotracist:

holytaxaccountant:

professional-cockblocker:

ronpaulisnotracist:

 You’re being racist if you choose to acknowledge it or not. Ron Paul supporters are not racist for supporting Ron Paul. You can argue that Ron Paul is racist, but you can’t argue that Ron Paul supporters are racist.

It’s astounding that you are so willing to dismiss someone’s opinion because of the color of their skin. I’ve argued against racial profiling at every single family get together in the past five years, so you’ve no ground to call me a racist because you wrongly think I’m supporting a candidate that’s racist.

By your own logic your continued support of (enter whoever, because all the others support hostility towards the middle east) would prove that you are insensitive towards the plight of Arab civilians that are casually bombed and written off as collateral damage every day, and any opinion you may hold on the issue is meaningless because you aren’t of the same skin tone of those who are suffering.

WHITE PEOPLE PROBLEMS.

 Oh, shut the fuck up. This girl had argued that someones opinions were invalid because of the color of their skin in her blog. It’s an absurd assertion. I’m not arguing that it is worse than xenophobic immigration laws, I’m arguing that dismissal of an individuals opinion based on the criteria of skintone and socioeconomic standing rather than the strength of their argument is a perpetuation, albeit to a lesser degree, of the same nasty shit she’s accusing people of.

WHITE PEOPLE PROBLEMS.

No, the user above is right, this is a white people problem. Wanna know why I can say that your opinion on racism is fucking stupid? BECAUSE YOU’RE WHITE AND YOU WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE IT.

Plus your opinion on racism IS fucking stupid, you’re arguing reverse racism, which bam, DOESN’T EXIST.

I am not racist, you are racist because you are willing to support a man who has been proven to hold bigoted, racist beliefs and actually choose to actively ignore it instead of condemning it.

 Yeah, well I witnessed black on white racism in my school system. Just because people aren’t in position of authority doesn’t mean they are incapable of being racist twats. But only if a group of whites attacked an individual of a different skin tone without provocation all the while shouting racial bullshit, only then could that be considered racist. Give me a break.

There is institutional racism, and then there is personal racism. I’ll give you institutionally white racists have that market cornered, but to suggest minority groups aren’t capable of racism is a laughable delusion.

What I’m arguing is not reverse racism, I’m arguing racism. Because if a rich white mother fucker was to imply that a poor minority wasn’t qualified to have an opinion about the level of taxation on the upperclass that surely would be racist. The crux of your argument is racist bullshit.

I agree ICE is bullshit too. My best friend since I was six, so for twenty years, is Mexican. I’ve argued with many an asshole who thinks racial profiling is justifiable or even effective.

Ron Paul’s newsletters that went out with racial content were terrible, but they don’t match anything I’ve ever heard him say in style or tone, so I have a hard time believing he wrote them. Especially when one of the newsletters has recently been exposed to have had a byline and was conveniently excluded in the original report of the newsletters.

I put his level of distancing himself from these newletters on par with Obama distancing himself from a pastor he had gone to for 20 years and claimed to be his mentor after it came to light that the pastor believed America worked to infect Africa with Aids.

His foreign policy is my primary reason for supporting Ron Paul. I doubt I’m going to vote for him, because he doesn’t represent all my political beliefs. However, he is the only candidate that speaks out against immoral wars, and to that extent I will support him.

holytaxaccountant:

professional-cockblocker:

ronpaulisnotracist:

 You’re being racist if you choose to acknowledge it or not. Ron Paul supporters are not racist for supporting Ron Paul. You can argue that Ron Paul is racist, but you can’t argue that Ron Paul supporters are racist.

It’s astounding that you are so willing to dismiss someone’s opinion because of the color of their skin. I’ve argued against racial profiling at every single family get together in the past five years, so you’ve no ground to call me a racist because you wrongly think I’m supporting a candidate that’s racist.

By your own logic your continued support of (enter whoever, because all the others support hostility towards the middle east) would prove that you are insensitive towards the plight of Arab civilians that are casually bombed and written off as collateral damage every day, and any opinion you may hold on the issue is meaningless because you aren’t of the same skin tone of those who are suffering.

WHITE PEOPLE PROBLEMS.

 Oh, shut the fuck up. This girl had argued that someones opinions were invalid because of the color of their skin in her blog. It’s an absurd assertion. I’m not arguing that it is worse than xenophobic immigration laws, I’m arguing that dismissal of an individuals opinion based on the criteria of skintone and socioeconomic standing rather than the strength of their argument is a perpetuation, albeit to a lesser degree, of the same nasty shit she’s accusing people of.

WHITE PEOPLE PROBLEMS.

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phredosophy:

ronpaulisnotracist:

phredosophy:

ronpaulisnotracist:

phredosophy:

ronpaulisnotracist:

I agree that DOMA is completely wrong. I’d also like to point out that Clinton didn’t veto it.

Does pointing that out make you feel good about yourself?

 I usually prefer to point out the moral bankruptcy of the Clinton administration by linking to the video of Madeleine Albright saying that the policy of sanctions on Iraq were worth it even though they may have resulted in the deaths of half a million children. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PgpbQfxgo Democrat party loyalists love to attack Paul over domestic issues when their leadership isn’t in any effect much better. Even Obama has opposed gay marriage equality at the federal level and has defferred to the states.True moral failings are those of the foriegn policy of the average Democrat and Republican. They are war mongers that distract you with wedge issues that they make no real effort in shifting until the eleventh hour.You can pretend that marriage is as important, and I agree that it is indeed important. But the sad truth is the average liberal doesn’t oppose war until it’s a Republican waging it. And the average Republican doesn’t oppose run away spending until it’s a Democrats making the budget.I enjoy any opportunity to trash beloved murderers, and will make them if I have to.

All I read was “I’m giving Ron Paul a pass on his hypocrisy.” Nothing you said was a defense of Ron Paul so I assume you have none.

Well, I already said I don’t support his vote for DOMA.But if I should expand: His support of DOMA was reinforcing the concept of states rights, which I don’t agree with, but that’s what it was. It did not out-right ban gay marriage throughout the land, if he supported a ban then he would have voted for the Federal Marriage Amendment that he voted against in 2004.

so you are simultaneously saying Ron Paul supports state’s rights over individual rights AND saying that the federal government defining a marriage for the states is the states having more rights?
this is your defense??

 DOMA didn’t define marriage for the states. If that were so then Massachussets wouldn’t have gay marriage now would it?That being said, I still I don’t agree with DOMA and I don’t believe in a lot of Ron Paul’s domestic policy.I also don’t believe he is a racist and his foreign policy is the best.I have serious doubts that I’d vote for him in the general election, but I also wouldn’t vote for Obama. Drone stikes are more immoral than denial of marriage equality, though both are not acceptable. Though I support Ron Paul’s stance on froeign policy, I refuse to compromise when casting my vote.I’m not an absolutist when it comes to my support for Ron Paul, and have no intention of defending his every position.His stances aren’t as terrible as some say, and at the same time they aren’t as great as others say either.

phredosophy:

ronpaulisnotracist:

phredosophy:

ronpaulisnotracist:

phredosophy:

ronpaulisnotracist:

I agree that DOMA is completely wrong.
I’d also like to point out that Clinton didn’t veto it.

Does pointing that out make you feel good about yourself?

 I usually prefer to point out the moral bankruptcy of the Clinton administration by linking to the video of Madeleine Albright saying that the policy of sanctions on Iraq were worth it even though they may have resulted in the deaths of half a million children. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PgpbQfxgo

Democrat party loyalists love to attack Paul over domestic issues when their leadership isn’t in any effect much better. Even Obama has opposed gay marriage equality at the federal level and has defferred to the states.

True moral failings are those of the foriegn policy of the average Democrat and Republican. They are war mongers that distract you with wedge issues that they make no real effort in shifting until the eleventh hour.

You can pretend that marriage is as important, and I agree that it is indeed important. But the sad truth is the average liberal doesn’t oppose war until it’s a Republican waging it. And the average Republican doesn’t oppose run away spending until it’s a Democrats making the budget.

I enjoy any opportunity to trash beloved murderers, and will make them if I have to.

All I read was “I’m giving Ron Paul a pass on his hypocrisy.” Nothing you said was a defense of Ron Paul so I assume you have none.

Well, I already said I don’t support his vote for DOMA.

But if I should expand:

His support of DOMA was reinforcing the concept of states rights, which I don’t agree with, but that’s what it was. It did not out-right ban gay marriage throughout the land, if he supported a ban then he would have voted for the Federal Marriage Amendment that he voted against in 2004.

so you are simultaneously saying Ron Paul supports state’s rights over individual rights AND saying that the federal government defining a marriage for the states is the states having more rights?

this is your defense??

 DOMA didn’t define marriage for the states. If that were so then Massachussets wouldn’t have gay marriage now would it?

That being said, I still I don’t agree with DOMA and I don’t believe in a lot of Ron Paul’s domestic policy.

I also don’t believe he is a racist and his foreign policy is the best.

I have serious doubts that I’d vote for him in the general election, but I also wouldn’t vote for Obama. Drone stikes are more immoral than denial of marriage equality, though both are not acceptable. Though I support Ron Paul’s stance on froeign policy, I refuse to compromise when casting my vote.

I’m not an absolutist when it comes to my support for Ron Paul, and have no intention of defending his every position.

His stances aren’t as terrible as some say, and at the same time they aren’t as great as others say either.